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Vince update (2009): what changed and what it means now

The Vince update was a 2009 Google ranking change that Matt Cutts confirmed on video and said was about trust, not a push for big brands.

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Key takeaways

  • Webmasters began reporting the change in a WebmasterWorld thread on 20 February 2009.
  • Matt Cutts confirmed it in a Google Webmasters video published on 4 March 2009.
  • The name came from Google, which called it the Vince change after the Googler who built it.
  • Google said it factored trust into rankings for some generic queries and did not affect long tail queries.
  • Google gave no launch date, no completion date and no share of queries affected.

What Google changed

In February 2009, webmasters noticed that large, well-known brands seemed to rank better for some broad, competitive queries. Google addressed it in a Google Webmasters video titled “Is Google putting more weight on brands in rankings?”, published on 4 March 2009.

Search Engine Land summarized the video the next day. It reported that Matt Cutts called it not an update but a “minor change,” and that “a Googler named Vince created this change.” The name therefore came from Google itself, which called it the Vince change internally. According to that summary, Cutts said it was “more about factoring trust more into the algorithm for more generic queries,” and that it did not affect long tail queries.

When it rolled out

Google gave no launch date. Search Engine Land traced the first reports to a WebmasterWorld thread created on 20 February 2009, followed by coverage on Search Engine Roundtable on 23 February. This page uses 20 February 2009 as the start date; the exact day is approximate. Google stated no completion date.

What is known about its impact

Google gave no figures. Search Engine Land reported that Cutts said most searchers would not notice the change. The idea that it favored big brands came from webmasters and SEO commentators, and Google disputed that reading. This page repeats no third-party traffic estimates.

What site owners should do

There is no Vince system to optimize for. Google’s ranking systems guide does not list one by that name, so treat it as one of many past changes absorbed into Google’s ranking. The lasting lesson is about trust, which Google’s current helpful content guidance addresses directly:

  • Show who is behind the site and why readers should trust it, with clear author and company information.
  • Answer Google’s self-assessment questions on expertise and originality honestly for your key pages.
  • Earn recognition through useful content rather than chasing signals attributed to brands.

How to check whether it affected you

This is historical. Search Console keeps only 16 months of data, so February and March 2009 can only be checked in archived analytics or server logs, by comparing generic, high-volume queries before and after 20 February 2009. The Google Algorithm Updates timeline lists every update with its dates.

  • The Florida update was the previous widely discussed ranking change, in 2003.
  • The Mayday update was the next quality-related ranking change, in 2010.

The evidence

Type
other update
Started
20 February 2009
Completed
Not stated by Google
Confirmed by
Google statement

Sources

  1. 1.Is Google putting more weight on brands in rankings? - Google Search Central (YouTube), March 4, 2009Primary
  2. 2.Google's Vince Update Produces Big Brand Rankings; Google Calls It A Trust "Change" - Search Engine Land, March 5, 2009
  3. 3.Creating helpful, reliable, people-first content - Google Search CentralPrimary
  4. 4.A guide to Google Search ranking systems - Google Search CentralPrimary

Frequently asked questions

Did Google confirm the Vince update?

Yes, by video rather than a blog post. Matt Cutts answered a question about brands in rankings in a Google Webmasters video published on 4 March 2009 and described the change there.

Why is it called Vince?

The name came from Google. Search Engine Land reported that Matt Cutts said a Googler named Vince created the change and that Google called it the Vince change internally.

Did the Vince update favor big brands?

Google said no. According to Search Engine Land's summary of the video, Cutts said it was about factoring trust into rankings for some generic queries, not pushing brands to the top.

When did the Vince update launch?

Google did not say. Webmasters first reported the change in a WebmasterWorld thread on 20 February 2009, so that date is used here and is approximate.

About the author

Adam Hafez
Adam Hafez

Founder, UpgradIQ FZC LLC

Adam Hafez works on technical SEO and search measurement: how pages get crawled, indexed, ranked and now quoted by answer engines. He founded UpgradIQ, which reads Google Search Console and GA4 to tie ranking movement back to the changes that caused it. He publishes what the data supports and states the limits of it.

  • Technical SEO
  • Search Console and GA4 measurement
  • Answer engine optimization
  • Structured data

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